Photo Lizzie Pinson & Idą Norton Pinson Glenn?

 Just found this photo among the boxes of family photos I inherited. Here's the front:

Here's the back:

The lady on the left is Lizzie Pinson, wife of Thomas James Pinson. I believe that the lady on the right is Ida Norton Pinson Glenn, who was Lizzie's sister-in-law. I am waiting on confirmation. 

If there are any corrections, I'll let you know. 

(One day later)

Confirmed. Ida Norton Pinson Glenn had a son Bennie Pinson Glenn who had a daughter Wyma Glenn. The signature I thought said "Thyma" is actually "Wyma."

So the person on the right is definitely Ida Norton Pinson Glenn. 

Lost woman found: Rachel Savannah Davis McKinney Barnes

To be clear: there is no direct proof that this woman is related to Mary Ann Green McKinney (MAGM) or Britta Ann Green McGuire Flinn (BAGMF). DNA  and other documentary evidence have revealed other Green family members, but so far, nothing firm on this branch. I wish...

Yet—lots of circumstantial evidence lead me to believe that Savannah is the niece of Mary Ann and Britta. One fact may be a co-incidence. Two, same. But when you start hitting three, four and five facts that connect, there are enough connections to form a good theory. My experience has been that these theories usually turn out to be true. 

First, some background:

I believe that Mahala Green is the sister of MAGM and BAGMF. I have shared very little about Mahala Green, who was born 1826 in NC and married James B. Davis May 26, 1844, in Shelby County. I've kept her info close, wanting to be the one who "found" her and proved her connection to the Mary Ann and Britta. More on Mahala in another post. This blog entry is about Mahala's daughter.

The person I found was Savannah Davis:

Rachel Savannah (or vice versa) Davis was born born in Alabama in 1859. I have yet to find the Green-Davises in the 1850 Census. NP because Rachel Savannah doesn't even appear till 1859. Here's the entry for the 1860 Census:

In the 1860 US Census for AL, James B. Davis is in Talladega County, AL. He is 37, a laborer, born SC, no money. Also in the household are Mahala, 34, born NC, Mary, 15, Geo. W., 12, William, 10, Atlanta, 4, and Rachel, 1. All children born AL. 

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7667/images/4211197_00406?ssrc=&backlabel=Return&lang=en-US&pId=12662155

By 1870 Mahala and Savannah are living in Shelby County by themselves. James B. died early in that year. I have yet to find anyone else from that family living. Moreover, Mahala and Savannah are living next door to Edward Carleton, where Britta was living in 1866. 

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7163&iid=4257737_00244&fn=Mahala&ln=Davis&st=d&ssrc=&pid=12428438

You may remember from earlier posts that MAGM had probably died around 1872, because her husband John P. McKinney married Mrs. L. F. Morgan April 14, 1872. Son Abraham Early (A.E.) McKinney appeared as a bondsman on the license. 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-YCST-4V?i=929&cc=1743384&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AXTWK-XZ1

The McKinneys had moved to LeFlore County, MS, by 1876, because in that year Savannah Davis married A. E. McKinney (probably her first cousin) in Leflore County, MS. 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BJ-N751-7?i=402

The McKinneys are in LeFlore County for the 1880 Census. (Digression: L. F. McKinney is in LeFlore as well, but living separately). This is the entry:

In the 1880 US Census for MS, K.P. McKinney is 71, born SC, in LeFlore County, Beat 3, District 135, widowed. Parents born SC. Also in the household are daughter J or I Quinnon and son-in-law John Quinnon. Both born AL. Daughter Sarah Ellen and husband J. Pinkney Lemly are on the page after them in LeFlore County. Daughter J. is born AL, parents born SC, John Quinnon is born AL, parents born AL. 

http://interactive.ancestry.com/6742/4241783-00560/9502153?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1880usfedcen%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26so%3d3%26MSAV%3d1%26msT%3d1%26gss%3dms_db%26gsln%3dmckinney%26msrpn__ftp%3dLeflore%252c%2bMississippi%252c%2bUSA%26msrpn%3d1733%26msrpn_PInfo%3d7-%257c0%257c1652393%257c0%257c2%257c3246%257c27%257c0%257c1733%257c0%257c0%257c%26dbOnly%3d_83004005%257c_83004005_x%26dbOnly%3d_83004006%257c_83004006_x%26dbOnly%3d_F000279A%257c_F000279A_x%26uidh%3dwy5&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

Mahala Antoinette McKinney had married John Quillan in 1879.

So, knowing that Abraham had married Savannah in 1876, where were they in 1880?

Best guess is that Abraham Early died around 1878. Because: 

In 1879 Mrs. Savanah McKinney (listed as Lavinah, reads as Savanah) married James Frank Barnes:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BJ-N7BX-8

And, further:

In the 1880 Census Savannah is living as Savannah Barnes with Frank in Leflore County, MS. They have a son James, 1:

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6742/images/4241783-00559?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=c5554da8c1fd41382bc58a4f9bf5ae9d&pId=8647898

FOUND HER!

That’s as far as I have gotten. 

Everything needs more research. 

But isn’t that the fun of genealogy???

Sisters

Having been blessed with six MORE boxes of family photos, I am trying desperately to sort, digitize, and find room for even more. Today I came across this photo:

Here's an edited version with slightly better definition:

I know the woman on the left is Great-grandmother Lizzie Pinson. The woman next to her is definitely Nancy Jane (Jennie) Page. My fragrant cousin has IDed the other two as mostly likely Carrie Barksdale and Bessie Bradford. 

Obviously some kind of special event. 

The most interesting thing about this photo is that it was taken on the same day as the earlier one you'll find here:

http://alroots3.blogspot.com/2015/06/a-new-picture-of-britta-i-think.html

Same hair, same clothes, same people. 

What's striking about the photo from the 2015 post is the woman in the middle, who is either Britta Ann Green McGuire Flynn or Mary Drucilla McGuire Edins. This photo came from my grandmother's album, in which the images were arranged chronologically from about 1919 to about 1930. This photo is from the earliest part of the album, about 1919. Britta died in 1919 at age 85 and Mary Drucilla would have been about 60 or so. The woman in the middle looks closer to 60 than 85, and so I am willing to say that this person is Mary Drucilla McGuire Edins. 

Boy, Britta and Mary Dru looked a lot a like. Like twins! But then again, so does the other Britanna Green, daughter of Graphen Holt Green, who I believe is my Britta's brother.  And so it goes...                          

                                                                                                                            

New Green connections

FYI—My interest is in finding the relationships, not in causing problems for other researchers who may be upset by possible revelations. "Spoiler alert" — possible out-of-wedlock child ahead.

I just made a Green/Pilgreen connection between Shelby County, AL, folks in the mid-1800's.

Clarissa Avery married Jonathon Pearson in 1848, Bibb County, AL. She was 25; he was 49. She had a son Levi from a previous relationship. Apparently he was born out of wedlock because her parents were Jessi Thomas Avery and Miriam Crumpton, daughter of Luke Crumpton. Natural children took the name of their mothers.

Levi married Frances B. Pilgreen in 1866 in Shelby County. Frances was the daughter of Elias Pilgreen, son of Book Pilgreen. She's a Green/Pilgreen.

Clarissa and Jonathon's son Shadrick Pearson married Nancy Jane McKinney, daughter of Mary Ann Green and John P. McKinney on 14 November 1872 in Bibb County.

Through DNA I can prove that Mary Ann Green McKinney was somehow related to Book Pilgreen—probably through Jeremiah Pilgreen of Shelby County in the 1830S and 40s. Thus, Nancy Jane McKinney Pearson and Frances Pilgreen Avery are related. Probably cousins.

Why is this important? I dunno yet. Stay tuned.

Is Jeremiah Green Britta's dad?

The purpose of this post is to examine whether or not Jeremiah Green could be Britta Ann (Brittanna)  Green's father.

Short version: Strong suspicion that yes, he is, in case you want to save yourself some reading. This post  is a theory. No smoking gun yet. 


After many years of doing genealogy, I have determined that these are the facts for Britta's father:

• Born in NC or SC (various censuses)

• In AL by 1834 (Britta's birth)

• Related to and probably the father of Mary Ann (born 1822, NC), Graphen Holt (born 1824, NC), Mahala (born 1826, NC), Nancy Ellen Elizabeth (born 1832, GA).  (DNA matches).

• Part of the Pilgreen family, who were occasionally listed as Green, Pilgreen, Pillgreen, Tilgreen, Pilgrim, Pilgrine (DNA matches to Book Pilgreen)

• Out of the picture from either death (most likely) or movement west (haven't found him in 10 years) by 1850 (Not listed in Al 1850 Census; not on Davidson McGuire's permission note for John L & Britta)

Those are the provable facts.


Continuing with provable facts and indicative suggestions :


Heeding my aunt who said, "Prove it. Prove it. Prove it," here are the facts that I can prove, and the paths that lead me there:

• Graphen Holt Green is closely related to Britta Ann Green (Various DNA matches).

• Graphen Holt Green's Civil War military record states that he was born in Pitt County, SC. There is no Pitt County, SC. The only U.S. Pitt County is in NC. The censuses say that Graphen was born in NC. So I started looking in Pitt County, NC, for Greens and Pilgreens.

https://www.fold3.com/image/237925048?terms=249,green,graphen


• Jeremiah Green was in Pitt County, NC in the 1820 Census. 

This is important because Britta's siblings'  parents had to have been in the area before 1822. NB: Mary Ann born 1822; Graphen 1824; Mahala 1826.

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7734/4433161_00288/355463?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return#?imageId=4433161_00287

• There is a Jeremiah Green in Houston County, GA, in 1830. 

Though I can't account for all the children in that household, they could be the extra boys from 1820. What's important is that there are children whose ages correspond to Mary Ann, Graphen, and Mahala. The oldest male corresponds to Jeremiah's age. Right in place for  the birth of Nancy Elizabeth Ellen Green in 1832. 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8058/4410703_00521/1843896?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Also: There is a Jeremiah Green in Ashe County, NC, but he is too young and the household make-up doesn't include children who match the ages of Mary Ann, Graphen, and Mahala.

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8058/4410703_00521/1843896?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return

• There were many, many Greens and Pilgreens in Shelby from 1820 on—including Book Pilgreen.


• In 1837 and 1839 Jeremiah Green bought land in Shelby County as evidenced through BLM/GLO records. Jeremiah Pillgreen and Jeremiah W. Green were the same person as evidenced through the 1838 indenture shown here:

https://alroots3.blogspot.com/2019/10/jeremiah-green.html

• In the 1840 US Census for AL, In the 1840 US Census for AL, J Green is living in Shelby County. In the household are one male 0 - 5, one male 5 - 9, one male 10 -14, one male 40 - 49 (J. Green). There are also one female under five, one female 5 - 9, one female 30 - 39. Three persons employed in agriculture, five people under 20, two people 20 - 49, no slaves, total people 7. Neighbors: Musick Mabery, Monk, Prim, Harthent (reads as “Northent” or similar), Horten, McCammock, Layton, Steel, Slane, Oaks, Isbell, S. McClanahan, Morgan, Crawford, Watrous, Nickels, Kelly, B Moare (Moore), Ray, Smith, Goold, R(ichard) Green, E. Green, Brasher, Martin, Roberson. 

More about this entry in another blog.

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8057/4411216_00727/1354130?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdbid%3d8057%26gsln%3dgreen*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln_x%3dNS%26msrdy_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp%3dshelby%252c%2balabama%252c%2busa%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn%3d2683%26msrpn_x%3d1%26hc%3d50%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26uidh%3dwy5%26redir%3dfalse%26msT%3d1&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=4411216_00727

• Jeremiah's land lots in 1837 and 1839 were situated near Columbiana. Abutters included
Roper, McClanahan, Morgan and Moore. Same abutters in the 1840 Census. In 1850 Mary Ann Green McKinney and Britta were living in Shelby County with the same neighbors or their immediate relatives.

https://alroots3.blogspot.com/2019/10/jeremiah-green.html


• Britta lived in Shelby County in 1850 and she returned to Shelby by 1866 after the death of her first husband John L. McGuire. I always wondered why she returned to Shelby instead of staying in Jefferson County, where she lived with John L. in 1860. Her sister-in-law Sarah, who married Charles McGuire, stayed in Jefferson County. Most of the McGuires stayed in Jefferson County.

The answer to this question may be that Britta went back to live closer to members of family of origin. In her neighborhood of Township 24 Range 12 lived Rachel Pilgreen, J.W. Pilgreen, and Frances Pilgreen Avery, to name but a few.


But for me, here is the killer fact:

• DNA proves that our Britta is related to Graphen Holt Green. Graphen named one son Jeremiah and one daughter Brittanna. 


Now I know that NONE of these items PROVES that Jeremiah Green is Britta's dad. But in the past when I've found four or more indicators that something is true, usually I am right. 

Betcha I am this time, too. 

Jeremiah Green

The purpose of this post is to lay out all the information I have collected on Jeremiah Green. Could he be Britta's father????

• Jeremiah Green's first appearance is in the 1820 Census. In the 1820 US Census for NC, Jerramiah Green is in Captain Mooring’s District in Pitt County. In the household are three males 0 - 5 (born 1815 - 1820), one male 26 - 44 (born 1776 - 1794, Jeremiah), one female 26 - 44 (born 1776 - 1794). Three whites under 16, two over 25, one foreigner not naturalized, five people total. Neighbors: David Congleton, Moses Moore, John Rollings, Britton, Crawford, Barnhill, James, Davis, (next page) Keel, Lolley, Reuben & Robert Goganis (Gurganus), Bullock, Davenport, Smiddick Whitley, Mayo. 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7734/4433161_00288/355463?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return#?imageId=4433161_00287

Most of the neighbors's names were found in the vicinity of Pricilla Pilgreen in 1810 Pitt County. Interesting, no?

• In the 1830 US Census for GA, a Jeremiah Green is living in Houston County. In the household are one male 0 - 5 (born 1825 - 1830), two males 5 - 10 (born 1820 - 1825), two males 10 - 15 (born 1815 - 1820), one male 20 - 30 (born 1800 - 1810), one male 30 - 40 (born 1790 - 1800, Jeremiah). Also in the household are one female under 0 - 5 (born 1825 - 1830), one female 5 - 10 (born 1820 - 1825), and one female 30 - 40 (Born 1790 - 1800). Neighbors: Cobb, Chain, Kent, Gray, Oliver, Mott, McGehee, Duncan, Gobson, Morgan, Rice, Moon, Wellborn. 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8058/4410703_00521/1843896?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Jeremiah must be between 36 and 40 in 1830, assuming the Census takers were accurate. If he were 26 in 1820, he would be at least 36 in 1830. And if the male in the 1830 Census is between 30 and 40, then Jeremiah is between 36 and 40. This gives approximate birth years of 1796 to 1800, plus or minus a year or two, depending on the accuracy of the census taker. The same goes for Mrs. Green.

• In 1837 Jeremiah Green bought 39.88 acres lands in Shelby County, AL: Twp 22, 1 W, Section 5, NW1/4, SW1/4, Certificate #21262. Abutters: Bridges, Dalrymple, Darden, Dumas, Kelly, Blanton Moore, Powell, Joseph Roper, Towns, Osborn Echols.

https://glorecords.blm.gov/details/patent/default.aspx?accession=AL0930__.346&docClass=STA&sid=kgevhbwt.ftx

This land is southwest of Columbiana, Shelby County. 

• In March 2019 I went to the Shelby County, AL, Courthouse, looking for Green and Pilgreen land/estate records. I found this indenture in the Shelby County Deed Book H, Pages 112 and 113. For your sake, I won't transcribe all of it, but the important parts to me were:

1. In the margin indexing "J. W. Green & J. M. McClanahan/H Page 148"


1.  ...This deed of trust between Jeremiah P Green the debtor and John M. McClanahan the trustee and John W, Roper the creditor witnessed that whereas the said J. W. Green is justly indebted to the said J. W. Roper in the sum of one hundred dollars due the 1st day of January next which he is desirous to secure...the said Jeremiah PillGreen...the said Pillgreen has granted and sold to the said McClanahan...a certain bay mare and six head of cattle...this 20 September 1838...Before me Thomas Looney an acting J.P. in and for said county personally appeared before me J. W. Green, John McClanahan, & John W. Roper...

Italics are mine.

This document clearly establishes that  Jeremiah W. Green and Jeremiah Pillgreen/Pilgreen are the same person, and that Jeremiah was known as a Pilgreen.

• In 1839 Jeremiah W. Green bought 39.88 acres lands in Shelby County, AL: Twp 22, 1W, Section 4, NE1/4, NE1/4, Certificate #15224. Abutters: Blair, Dumas, Harris, John Roper, Reinhart, Walker, Osborn Echols. Next to Richard Green. 

https://glorecords.blm.gov/details/patent/default.aspx?accession=AL2630__.461&docClass=STA&sid=u2wtveqx.3d0

This land is also southwest of Columbiana, Shelby County. 

• In the 1840 US Census for AL, J. Green is living in Shelby County. In the 1840 US Census for AL, J Green is living in Shelby County. In the household are one male 0 - 5 (born 1835 - 1840), one male 5 - 9 (born 1831 - 1835), one male 10 -14 (born 1826 - 1830), one male 40 - 49 (born 1790 - 1800, J. Green). There are also one female under five (born 1835 - 1840), one female 5 - 9 (born 1831 - 1835), one female 30 - 39 (born 1801 - 1810). Three persons employed in agriculture, five people under 20, two people 20 - 49, no slaves, total people 7. Neighbors: Musick, Mabery, Monk, Prim, Harthent (reads as “Northent” or similar), Horten, McCammack, Layton, Steel, Slane, Oaks, Isbell, S. McClanahan, Willis Morgan, Crawford, Watrous, Nickels, Kelly, B Moare (Moore), Ray, Smith, Goold, R(ichard) Green, E. Green, Brasher, Martin, Roberson. 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8057/4411216_00727/1354130?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdbid%3d8057%26gsln%3dgreen*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln_x%3dNS%26msrdy_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp%3dshelby%252c%2balabama%252c%2busa%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn%3d2683%26msrpn_x%3d1%26hc%3d50%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26uidh%3dwy5%26redir%3dfalse%26msT%3d1&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=4411216_00727

Willis Morgan lives a few families away from J.P. & Mary Ann Green McKinney in 1850. 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8054/4191539-00659/16778558?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdbid%3d8054%26gsln%3dmorgan%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln_x%3dNS%26msrdy_x%3d1%26msrpn__ftp%3dshelby%252c%2balabama%252c%2busa%26msrpn__ftp_x%3d1%26msrpn%3d2683%26msrpn_x%3d1%26hc%3d50%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26uidh%3dwy5%26redir%3dfalse%26msT%3d1&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=4191539-00659

As does the son of S(amuel) McClanahan. Right next door. And the father of John Roper.

There are no good candidates for Shelby County's Jeremiah Green in the 1850. If you search on "Jer* *Green" born 1790 - 1800, you get four results. Two are female, which eliminates them. The two males are enumerated in New England states—which doesn't necessarily eliminate them, but seems unlikely given the general direction (south and west) of our Jeremiah's migration. If you search using Jer* Green" born 1790 - 1800, you get eight results. Five are female. The males are all in New England. If you search "J. Green" born 1790 - 1800, there is one male candidate in Tennessee. Not impossible, but not likely, either.

It is highly likely that Jeremiah Green died between 180 & 1850. Possibly in Shelby County, AL.

So far that is all I have found out about Jeremiah Green. In the next post, I'll examine where the evidence leads.

Greens & Pilgreens in early Pitt County, NC

Why investigate Greens and Pilgreens in early Pitt County censuses? Because DNA says Britta Ann Green and Graphen Holt Green were probably brother and sister. Because GHG's pension application says he was born in Pitt County, SC. There is no Pitt County SC. There is however a Pitt County, NC. Plus GHG's census entries all say he was born in NC, as do most entries for the parents of Britta Ann Green (my brick wall). 

The more I investigate Greens & Pilgreens in Pitt County, NC, the more I find. And usually there are very few references to these folks anywhere on the internet. The purpose of this entry to is list them all and see if I can find any patterns. To begin:


The 1790 Census

• In the 1790 US Census for NC, William Pilgreen is listed. In the household are three other free whites. Since there are no females listed, they must all be men. Since there are no males of 26 and upwards, and no males of under 16, they must be three free white males 16 - 26 (born 1764 to 1774), with William being the oldest.

Neighbors: Kelly, Jolly, James, Cason, Ward, Harwell, Perkins, Dannels, Page. Nearby but not too close are Mobley, Bullock, William Congleton, Peal, Robeson. All these names are associated in later censuses with surnames that show up in DNA matches.  

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/5058/4440913_00585?pid=189734&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db%3D1790usfedcen%26h%3D189734%26indiv%3Dtry%26o_cvc%3DImage:OtherRecord&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true

• George Green, Pitt County, Neighbors: Whelan, Hall, Wilcox, Moye, Easton, Adams, Noble, Hall, one Bullock & one Robeson. Not too many associated families, so I pay attention to but discount George as an ancestor. 

The 1800 Census

• In the 1800 US Census for NC, George Green is in Greenville, PItt County. In the household are three males under 10, one male 26 - 44, one female 26 - 44, and six slaves. Three people under 16, two over 25, six slaves. Neighbors: Warren, Woodford, Cobb, Atkinson, Alfred, Hearn, Hathaway. 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7590/4440904_00299/345826?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Not much to see here. 

The 1810 Census

• In the 1810 US Census for NC, Presiden (reads as “Presilla”) Pilgreen is living in Pitt County, NC. In the household are two males under 10 (born 1800 - 1810), two males 16 - 25 (born 1785 - 1796), one female 16 - 25 (born 1785 - 1796), 1 female 26 - 44 (Priscilla, born 1766 - 1786); two people under 16, one over 25, six people in the household. Neighbors: Chana (O’hara??), Jolly or Lolly, Legat, Allen Caughton (reads as "Congleton"), Moore, Garganus, Taylor, Borough, Knox, Briton, Handcok, Richard, Smith, Jones, Ward, Andrews, Crawford, Davenport, Rollin.

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7613/4433311_00500/395687?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return

• In the 1810 US Census for NC, James Pillgreen is living in Pitt County. He is the male 26 - 44 (born 1766 - 1794), only person in household. Neighbors include Moore, Pinckett, Spear, Albriton, Daniel, Jolly, Mobley, James, Congleton, Robert Goganus (Gurganus).

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7613/4433311_00458?pid=395039&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DFiQ9%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D7613%26gsfn%3DJames%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln_x%3DNS%26msrdy_x%3D1%26msrpn__ftp%3Dpitt,%2520north%2520carolina,%2520usa%26msrpn__ftp_x%3D1%26msrpn%3D2374%26msrpn_x%3D1%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26uidh%3Dwy5%26redir%3Dfalse%26msT%3D1%26gss%3Dangs-d%26pcat%3D35%26fh%3D40%26h%3D395039%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D41&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=FiQ9&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.156435762.88277443.1564071291-251312360.1564071291#?imageId=4433311_00458

Oddly he was indexed as "James Pillbsin" at Ancestry, but if you look at the entry, it is clearly "James Pilgreen."

• In the 1810 US Census for NC, George Greene is in Pitt County, In the household are one male under 10, two males 10 - 15, one male 26 - 44, one males 45 and over. There are also two females under 10, one female 26 - 44. 18 slaves. Five people under 16, three people over 25, and 26 in the household. Neighbors: Brooks, Deberry, Armstrong, Jones, Tison, Moye, Taylor, Laughingham, Garnor. 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7613/4433311_00503/395740?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return


The 1820 Census

• In the 1820 US Census for NC, Edmond Pilgreen is in Captain Clark's District, Pitt County. In the household are one male 16 - 25 (born 1795 - 1804, Edmond), one female under 10 (born 1810 - 1820), one female 16 - 25 (born 1795 - 1804), one foreigner not naturalized, three total. Neighbors: lots of Mobleys, Patty Pilgreen, Abraham Congleton, Burke, Wicke, Barrow, Quarden, Dudley, Clark, Little, Vanoorden, Lolly, Hugh Pilgreen, Elizabeth Lolley, Linnier (Lanier?).

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7734/4433161_00283/355325?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return

• In the 1820 US Census for NC, Patty Pilgreen is living in Captain Clark’s District. In the household is one male 10 - 16 years old (born 1804 - 1810) and one female of 45 plus years (born 1775 or before). Neighbors: Edmond Pilgreen, Mobley, Congleton, Buck, Barrow, Wick, Quarden, Linner, Dudley, Clarke, Whitehead, Brinkley, Smith. 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7734/4433161_00283/355325?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return#?imageId=4433161_00283

Could this be Priscilla Pilgreen from 1810 Pitt County census??? Could Edmond be the son of Patty?

• In the 1820 US Census for NC, Hugh Pilgreen is living in Captain Clarke’s District in Pitt County. In the household are one male under 10 (born 1810 - 1820), one male 26 - 44 (born 1776 - 1794), one female under 10 (born 1810 - 1820), one female 26 - 44 (born 1776 - 1794); one foreigner not naturalized; two free white people over 25; two FWP under 16; four total. Neighbors: Kinsall, Moore, Lolley, Dudley, James, Crandal, Jones, Haladay; next page two Pilgreens (Patty and Edmond). 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7734/4433161_00283/355325?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return#?imageId=4433161_00282

• In the 1820 US Census for NC, Jerramiah Green is in Captain Mooring’s District in Pitt County. If you read all six pages, you'll discover that he's actually in Captain Carney's District. In the household are three males 0 - 5 (born 1815 - 1820), one male 26 - 44 (born 1776 - 1794, Jeremiah), one female 26 - 44 (born 1776 - 1794). Three whites under 16, two over 25 (Jeremiah & wife), one foreigner not naturalized, five people total. Neighbors: David Congleton, Moses Moore, John Rollings, Britton, Crawford, Barnhill, James, Davis, (next page) Keel, Lolley, Reuben & Robert Goganis (Gurganus), Bullock, Davenport, Smiddick, Whitley, Mayo. 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7734/4433161_00288/355463?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return#?imageId=4433161_00287


• In the 1820 US Census for NC, Charles Green in is Captain Wallis's Districr, Pitt County. In the household are one mail 16 - 25, one female 16 -25, two male slaves 26 - 44, one foreigner not naturalized, on person engages in commerce, on person in manufacturing, Total whites: 2. Total slaves, 2. Total all people: 4. Neighbors: Ewell, Wallis, Moye, Bell, Forbs, Ellis, Eason,  Evans, Chearry, Smith.

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7734/4433161_00302/354700?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return#?imageId=4433161_00303


• In the 1820 US Census for NC, Sary Green is in Greenville, Captain Moye's District. In the household are one free white male 16 - 25, two white females under 10, one female 10 - 15, one female over 45, and five slaves. Neighbors: Rix, Robertson, Bell, Johnson, Brooks, Bond, James C. Green, Tison.

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7734/4433161_00317/354545?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return


• In the 1820 US Census for NC, James C. Green is living in Greenville, Captain Moye's District. In the household is one free white male 16 - 25. One person engaged in manufacturing, one person total. Neighbors: Merril, Brickle, Grines, Buck, Harrison, Brown. James C. is very close to Sary Green. Maybe they are son and mother?

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7734/4433161_00317/354545?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return#?imageId=4433161_00316

• • As it happens, there's an Isaac Pilgreen and a Peggy Green in neighboring Beaufort County in 1820, but for the moment I am confine my investigation to Pitt County.

By 1830 the only Green or Pilgreen left in Pitt County is Hugh Green, or his wife actually. 

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8058/4410633_00167/231803?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return

What can we learn from this?

From the birthdates of Britta's probable siblings I have pieced together the family's migration. Could be right, could be wrong, but it's the best I can come up with for now. 

The family started in Pitt County, NC, where the three older siblings I can ID were born (Mary Ann, Graphen, Mahala). The family moved to GA sometime between 1826 (Mahala) and 1832 (Nancy Elizabeth Ellen) and were in AL by 1834 (Britta). 

So that eliminates Hugh Green's family. 

Where are the other Green/Pilgreens in 1830? Stay tuned.